Joe Rogan Experience #1393 - James Wilks & Chris Kresser - The Game Changers Debate

James Wilks is a retired mixed martial artist. He was the winner of Spike TV's The Ultimate Fighter: United States vs. United Kingdom. He is also a producer of the documentary "The Game Changers" on Netflix. Chris Kresser, M.S., L.Ac is a globally recognized leader in the fields of ancestral health, Paleo nutrition, and functional and integrative medicine. Link to notes from this podcast by Chris Kresser:


  1. 1Me

    1Me6 klukkustundum síðan

    2.6 million :-)

  2. Jacob Frederick

    Jacob Frederick7 klukkustundum síðan

    All I'm 100% certain about is Joe and Jamie took the fatest bong rip of their life after this podcast😂

  3. 1Me

    1Me7 klukkustundum síðan

    I think Joe started to warm up when he heard the kinds of studies and who is funding them he is pushing. That's got to ring massive alarm bells. I know someone that does that isn't working for truth, whether it's deliberate not not.

  4. Jml Guitars

    Jml Guitars7 klukkustundum síðan

    man james wilks needs to smash a few steaks and join the human race,,, what an irational cult following nut job

  5. How To Vegan

    How To Vegan8 klukkustundum síðan

    Chris is such a miserable person wow wow wow

  6. How To Vegan

    How To Vegan8 klukkustundum síðan

    *Chris is a fucking degenerating zombie. Joe doesn't look like him because he uses steroids sad*

  7. 1Me

    1Me8 klukkustundum síðan

    Oh no masters level knowledge in nutrition. Acupuncture course in California :-) Lol

  8. 1Me

    1Me8 klukkustundum síðan

    Let's be honest here. Neither of these men are experts. They will argue forever.

  9. John Watson

    John Watson8 klukkustundum síðan

    Really enjoyed Game Changers and was looking forward to this Podcast, but gave up after 20 minutes because everyone was just arguing and it got super annoying

  10. 1Me

    1Me9 klukkustundum síðan

    Joe is like a marriage counselor :-)

  11. 1Me

    1Me9 klukkustundum síðan

    I wish I had a meta study warning me to stay away from these two arguing.

  12. 1Me

    1Me9 klukkustundum síðan

    The meat guy looks like he only eats veggies and the veggie guy looks like he eats only meat.

  13. Da 3v1ls

    Da 3v1ls10 klukkustundum síðan

    hey guys.. do you know James is a combative trainer?

  14. adithya suresh

    adithya suresh12 klukkustundum síðan

    brilliant debate... only if chris was a little more aggressive would it have become more interesting.

  15. Xez1919

    Xez191914 klukkustundum síðan

    I would love to work in a company where people are allowed to critizise their statements and/or ideas so openly and directly. Unfortunately a lot of people identify their ideas way too much with their ego, and they get pissed if you question their ideas. Such an open, honest and direct discussion will most likely get you fired. This is probably also influenced a lot by the culture of the country and the company. I would love to hear about places(companies, countries etc.) where a culture of open, tough, direct and honest dicussions is appreciated. Please share your experiences!

  16. Relentless Defender

    Relentless Defender15 klukkustundum síðan

    James won the debate and Chris did not do his research. Total Knock Out!! by James

  17. mike

    mike15 klukkustundum síðan

    So Chris is a "globally recognized leader" (in JRE's description) and doesn't go by exact scientific reports and charts but he's not an expert but Joe's had him on several times. And James goes by the reports and charts but it doesn't count. And there's a link to Chris' article on game changers but no links for James at all. Ok, there's no bias at all...

  18. Jordan Kasday

    Jordan Kasday15 klukkustundum síðan

    What's the argument in the comments section about? James was over the top, yes, but right. And to people saying he's a bully, we know that he's upset but it's definitely because he's picked on for arguing for the diet with less popular support. A diet that get's unreasonably trashed on with no basis in fact whatsoever. But he definitely should chill. BUT and a big BUT he's right and Chris admitted James was the whole time. This whole debate is James undoing every argument Chris threw at him. Joe even agreed James killed it. James proved not only through his own experience but with evidence that you're healthier on a vegan diet.

  19. James Esch

    James Esch16 klukkustundum síðan

    Captain straw man saves the day!

  20. Hephen Stalkin

    Hephen Stalkin16 klukkustundum síðan

    Chris is creepy

  21. tyrone DeGZ

    tyrone DeGZ18 klukkustundum síðan

    Forest Plot is the main thing!! 😂😂

  22. Joseph Rodriguez

    Joseph Rodriguez19 klukkustundum síðan

    Layne Norton vs James Wilks would make for a great show!!!!!

  23. Benjamin Jaton

    Benjamin Jaton21 klukkustund síðan

    For those interested biolayne has a review of this debate that is much more interesting and constructive.

  24. BillB808

    BillB80822 klukkustundum síðan

    Ive not watched this documentary and now cannot as i just cannot listen to this guy one more second

  25. Tyrone Lim

    Tyrone Lim23 klukkustundum síðan

    James held himself proud. Stood by the truth and was never proven wrong. Joe was very fair and brilliant and playing the middle man. Very good watch.

  26. Blake Dukowitz

    Blake Dukowitz23 klukkustundum síðan

    It took me over two weeks to finish this full podcast. Fucking painful. But I couldn’t stop.

  27. Petar Angelov

    Petar Angelov23 klukkustundum síðan

  28. jmhemstrom

    jmhemstromDegi Síðan síðan

    Can't stand James's communication skills, but the film is very misleading. The film made me feel like you should stop eating meat. Also the majority of people can't afford a very high quality of meat. Eat healthy and in moderation, you should also be doing some kind of exercising.

  29. Danny Scarff

    Danny ScarffDegi Síðan síðan

    You need to watch the whole thing for yourself. You need to hear how Kresser is actually pulled apart on most things. James is a bit of a knob, how he keeps on pointing out Kresser's short comings, which is very childish. I wanted Kresser to come out on top in this argument. Unfortunately, He simply does not.

  30. Jay r

    Jay rDegi Síðan síðan

    Let me finsh first wilks.......the dudes hillarious was he 3 and half of of the 4v

  31. Heather Salter

    Heather SalterDegi Síðan síðan

    Wow makes me think differently about Joe, he is supposed to be the host, however, he is siding with this Chris dude, however, I see by the end he is moving more towards James. I loved this doc, saw it three times. People, take what you want from it, it has so much knowledgable research.

  32. K R O K O D I L

    K R O K O D I LDegi Síðan síðan

    Joe: We rollin’? James: Fair point. Chris: Well, here’s the evidns sportingmnmhnm...

  33. Martins Silins

    Martins SilinsDegi Síðan síðan

    What I find fascinating. I look at James Wilks who looks super healthy and then Chris who does not look very healthy. Kind of makes me want to be on James side then really.. (I love meat)

  34. VideeoJunkee

    VideeoJunkeeDegi Síðan síðan

    6:25 the moment James Wilks revealed he doesn't know what his film was about.

  35. Scott L

    Scott LDegi Síðan síðan

    James is a beast

  36. Petar Angelov

    Petar AngelovDegi Síðan síðan

    Oh my god... this guy... so at the final you can always improve comoared to what... but through the entire movie they show hamburger or burito representative for MEAT. What a stupid idiot.

  37. Petar Angelov

    Petar AngelovDegi Síðan síðan

    Misrepresentation is to show a hamburger in a film and equate it to meat an argument between pure plant based vs healthy omnivore diat... It would be good if avarage UFC fighters who are experts in nothing take the time to read a dictionary ;)

  38. Petar Angelov

    Petar AngelovDegi Síðan síðan

    Worst part... the poor guy said all time he think a plants are great, but the other guy has to put him in a position of a carnivore so he can be able to attack him. Otherwise he has 0 ground!.

  39. Petar Angelov

    Petar AngelovDegi Síðan síðan

    Pretty disappointed James Wilks is so weak. Easy to kill this clown is when just repeat the avocado shit and the 150 mio company of Cameron.... that is all.. you cannot have it both ways clown...

  40. Michael Linehan

    Michael LinehanDegi Síðan síðan

    James Wilkes should be ashamed of how he handled this debate. Personal attacks and continuously trying to discredit Chris Kresser. I'd love to see him up against Layne Norton.

  41. Petar Angelov

    Petar AngelovDegi Síðan síðan

    "Massive businesses" says the person co-producing a movie with James Cameron who has a 150 mio company producing plan based processed protein supplements? What a hypocrite...

  42. Vince Vasquez

    Vince VasquezDegi Síðan síðan

    It's pretty simple , meat does not add oxygen to your body...its dead, cooked...dead. Plants are alive, powered by the sun, floods the body with oxygen.

  43. Petar Angelov

    Petar AngelovDegi Síðan síðan

    You know someone has something to hide, when he try to discredit someone else's opinion instead of defending his own words...

  44. Petar Angelov

    Petar AngelovDegi Síðan síðan

    What a walking contradictions: so 16% is enough for causality but 84% are not. Fundet studies is not to be trusted, unless they are in favour of my statements. And i have no agenda other than a company producing processed plan based protein supliments. But... lets not trust funded studies. Hä?!

  45. Petar Angelov

    Petar AngelovDegi Síðan síðan

    That is gold: 50:50 by correlations and the statment is milk gives cancer... but other people misrepresent data.. omg

  46. troy darben

    troy darbenDegi Síðan síðan

    Overview: James seems to dominate but his suspicious method to not allow Chris to talk becomes dubious and laborious. I watched it then went to Chris's website to see his researched response, Chris crushes the info James uses in this interview on his website.

  47. refused

    refusedDegi Síðan síðan

    If you have patience watch the first hour as there James is highly emotional. Things start levelling out around 2 hours. Very good discussion.

  48. demoskunk

    demoskunkDegi Síðan síðan

    Is this guy a combatives trainer? He seems like a combatives trainer. I dunno why but I get the feeling he's a combatives trainer.

  49. hochsteent

    hochsteentDegi Síðan síðan is meat bad again?

  50. Luke DeLong

    Luke DeLongDegi Síðan síðan

    My guess is James didn't want to have a discussion, he intended to attack Chris for calling out his propaganda film

  51. Francisco Cisco

    Francisco CiscoDegi Síðan síðan

    Yes , all he did is play mind games just to be right over anything chris said.

  52. Chloe Ivan

    Chloe IvanDegi Síðan síðan

    Am I the only one who thinks that the only reason why James somewhat “wins” this argument is because he’s attacking character and if Chris is wrong about one thing, james runs away with it.. this guy does not know how to debate. Dumbass

  53. Dale Harper

    Dale HarperDegi Síðan síðan

    I listen to hours of Joe. Fucking hours of him and at times I roll my eyes, generally I agree with his points. Fine. James, mate! Bro, you actually made me SCREAM, driving home from work the other night. Loud A S F... "ANSWER THE FUCKING QUESTION". This is the most painstaking thing I have ever listened to.. I'm 1 hour and 1 minute in, including Joe's Adverts. I only came to ISgos to leave a pissed off comment 'cause I'm fucking high as shit and want to listen to this and play games but I keep asking myself, "how am I gonna chill out if this dude gonna be so damn hyper??". I don't know what I'm gonna do but it's going to be a bowl and an attempt but this time...with video 😎🤣😎💚💛❤🤛

  54. JR Olsen

    JR OlsenDegi Síðan síðan

    I'm disturbed by how the loud guy constantly licks his lips and teeth and sometimes just sweeps his tounge with his mouth open, while pointing at the quiet guy.

  55. Antonio Martin

    Antonio MartinDegi Síðan síðan

    Just shut up and start punching each other! 🥊 😂

  56. Mike Brothers

    Mike BrothersDegi Síðan síðan

    Great debate. Both sides made great points. James is annoying as he doesn’t let anyone talk and it was hard listening to him talk. He did, however, disprove a lot of what Chris said. With that said, I’m gonna cook up this ribeye and steak this broccoli.

  57. Michael Grant

    Michael GrantDegi Síðan síðan

    Daaang daaaaaaang DAAAAAAANG!!!! FACTS!!! Get yah life in order! Stop frustrating Mr 3000 hrs.

  58. vaughn6668

    vaughn6668Degi Síðan síðan

    James defended his stance well, the Chris guy doesn't appear to have any credibility on his end in my opinion. I don't advocate a 100 percent plant based diet (I'm not on a diet at all), but Chris's refuting statements and supporting arguments, are built on weak and semantic constructs. It forces James to address the minutiae of Chris's generalized claims, which sets up Chris to paint his James's responses as irrelevant.


    PHILIPE KLEMM CAMILODegi Síðan síðan

    So, James, where do you want to eat today? James: *Stares into soul. Well if we look at this forest plot...

  60. Mike B

    Mike BDegi Síðan síðan

    58:53 Joe tells him that eating green leafy vegetables with proteins is beneficial. James never admits anything. He goes to say “Well, I think he was being misleading.” He cant read Forest plots, you didn’t write a conclusion. It’s also a common known fact that when people b.s. they talk an awful lot and they interrupt you all the time. All James does in this whole video is rip on Chris personally. He places a heavy emphasis on that. He gets Chris to admit he’s wrong on something. Even if it’s extremely minor what he will do every time Chris makes a point. He’ll say “Well I don’t agree with this and then add that Chris can’t read Forest plots. When Joe mentions Protein quality, James keeps saying, “Yeah, we’ll get to that”, but they never do. That’s the most important part. I bet that 99% of the people commenting on here didn’t watch the whole video because if they did, they would easily see James’s misleading ways. They just watch until they hear what they want to say. Then come down to the comments section and say that point. No wonder this world is so fuked.

  61. Dionyzos

    DionyzosDegi Síðan síðan

    Chris Kresser is an anti-flu vaxxer, cholesterol denialist and a strong supporter of acupuncture. No wonder he lost this debate.

  62. Mohammed Gheithan

    Mohammed GheithanDegi Síðan síðan

    what a messy podcast :D we need a recap